As I watched the outrage from political pundits last night about how super-hotty Debra Lafave was let off the hook easy with just probation for having sex with one of her teenage students, all I kept thinking to myself was, Why didn't this happen when I was in high school?
Look, I know what is right and what is wrong, and I'm in no way advocating that teachers should be having sex with their students - but come on! I defy a single straight male alive to tell me that he wouldn't have given his right arm to nail a knockout teacher like Lafave.
The best was when I heard a female talkshow questioner ask, with a straight face, if it is safe to let Lafave back out out on house arrest. After all, she could still force a teenage pizza delivery boy to have sex with her.
My God! I bet every pizza joint in town got flooded with applicants after that line.
For some reason, we are supposed to seriously believe that teenage boys must beware that super-hot blonde models are on the loose and looking for sex! Oh, the horror.
Yet, the same liberal media seems to wink and nod when real pedophiles are given turnstile treatment by leftwing judges. It's as if a man raping a girl or a boy is the same as a gorgeous babe giving an adolescent some thrills. The comparisons are ludicrous.
I'm sorry if I'm offending some of you gals out there, but the truth is a good looking woman cannot rape a teenage boy. How is a fantasy come true considered rape? The fact is, ladies, there is a healthy double standard. Men and women are not the same. Lafave is a slut, yes, and an adulterer, yes, but definitely NOT a sex offender.
However, a male teacher having sex with a teenage female student IS the action of a sexual predator. Men can truly harm women sexually. Men can damage a girl for life by sexually abusing her, and deserve very harsh punishment for such actions.
Hey, this is just reality, gang. The fact that nobody in the liberal press wants to admit the truth doesn't change the truth. If they would attack Lafave for her promescuity I would respect that, but to take the angle that she is a friggin rapist is so out of touch with reality it's pathetic.
The liberal supremists are simply anti-woman. Teaching that women and men are to be treated the exact same way is only going to harm both sexes. Conservatives get this. We understand that a woman is to be treated with respect as a LADY. We help her carry, we open her door, we don't act like beasts in front of them, we appreciate their differences from us and take comfort in their grace. They are the consience of society, and make men more civilized.
When progressives tear down the differences of man and woman they only make ladies into whores and gentlemen into weaklings. This isn't good for anbody.
Want to condemn Lafave? Great, let's just say she's no lady and let her be shunned as a SLUT. But a sexual predator? Please. The kid who scored with her is probably still high fiving his buddies.
-MZ
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unfortunately you are right, madze. although hormones play a big part, the way in which sons and daughters are reared needs to be fixed. my husband, who ten years ago may have told his son, "way to score son!" has rethought his position now that daughters are in the picture. i reminded him that ALL girls are a daughter or sister or mother or aunt or grandmother of someone.
now, he preaches purity to all our children. of course the hormones are still raging, but our son thinks with the big head and not the small one! i feel for the girl who eventually reels him in.
Agreed nanc - there is an age limit to which boys shouldnt be seduced, and not only to protect girls, but because it can make them obsessive and addiction - prone in regards to sex - which can evolve into predatory or at least emotionally dysfunctional behaviour in regards to sex.
All boys are hit with a tidal wave of urges at puberty - from sex to violence, and just as we teach them to control their urges to take a bat to someone's head, we should teach them to control their other urges.
There's a reason we call it "scoring" and use baseball references for how close to it we get.
It's because that's what it feels like to a hormone driven young male, but just like employment, there are some jobs kids just aint equipped to handle mentally - no matter how strong they may be physically.
Sex IS a drug to immature males - and all that that entails.
Hey nan, you never can know what your sons are really thinking. That said, behavior is what counts and the fact that you have been so vigilant in establishing right from wrong can only serve them well.
I find it difficult to believe that this kid is scarred for anything. He is going to be fine. The whole psycho-babble I don't buy.
That said, it should be made clear that this was wrong because it was sex for the wrong reasons. Sex to make husband and wife closer is right. Sex for husband and wife to make babies is right. Sex to make a score with the hot teacher is wrong. Sex with your student because it gives you a thrill is wronger still.
But an act of abuse? No way.
unfortunately madze (or fortunately) my son tells me things that make my husband blush. i ask him if he would appreciate someone looking at his sister in such a manner, to which he responds, "i'll kill 'em!" so you guys are right about the tidal wave of hormones.
if you have daughters, just remember there will be a boy out there that looks and lusts after her as you did as boys toward someone's daughter, which may help in correcting your sons at a later date. of course we cannot alter our children's every thought, but we should give them the up and down side in all issues. it's better they learn it from us than on the school bus, the mall, or a h.s. football game!
p.s. what is it with all these horny female teachers anyway?
Well MZ, here's the thing: it aint psychobabble.
It's memory.
I started too young and it very negatively affected my ability to be a good husband and father.
My priorities were skewed and I was emotionally numb in all the wrong places.
I now wish someone had restrained me.
As for the women like LeFave, I think they are a product of much the same thing.
They are either active too early, or used by older men, or both.
Anyhow, as long as we're on the subject, I'd like to vector slightly and post the best news Ive heard in many years:
Vatican Bans Most Homosexuals From Catholic Seminaries
By Susan Jones
CNSNews.com Senior Editor
November 23, 2005
(CNSNews.com) - Homosexual advocacy groups are expressing disappointment, but not surprise, at a Vatican document that orders Catholic seminaries to exclude would-be priests who practice or endorse homosexuality.
"The church, while deeply respecting the people in question, cannot admit to the seminary and the sacred orders those who practice homosexuality, present deeply rooted homosexual tendencies or support so-called gay culture," said the document approved by Pope Benedict XVI.
An Italian Catholic news agency published the document on Tuesday, although it won't be officially released until Nov. 29.
Men with a "transitory" same-sex attraction (as opposed to a "deep-rooted" attraction) may be admitted to seminaries if they have been celibate for at least three years, the document said.
But, it added, "One cannot ignore the negative consequences that can stem from the ordination of people with deeply rooted homosexual tendencies."
The document reaffirms the Catholic Church's longstanding ban on ordaining active homosexuals.
'Scapegoats'
One of the nation's largest homosexual advocacy groups said the Catholic Church is rejecting the teachings of Jesus Christ and science.
"By silencing Catholics who advocate full inclusion, this decree by the church is an attempt to close down open debate," said Human Rights Campaign President Joe Solmonese.
Solmonese also rejected the notion that homosexuality among Catholic priests contributed to the church's recent pedophile scandal.
"At a time when the church should be taking responsibility for the harm created by a devastating sex abuse scandal, they are instead using gay people as scapegoats. This decree is a diversion that neither keeps children safe nor holds criminals responsible."
Likewise, the group Catholics for a Free Choice said the document marks a sad moment for the church.
CFC President Frances Kissling said church leaders are contributing to the "stigmatization of gay men," misinterpreting scientific information regarding homosexuality and acting to exclude faithful and good men who are called to the priesthood.
Kissling found it particularly disturbing that people who promote "equal rights for gays" would be excluded from the priesthood.
"Church teachings have changed over time -- from the approval of slavery to the sun being at the center of the universe -- and good and faithful Catholics have always been willing to re-examine positions based on science and compassion," Kissling said.
"No Vatican document will stop this vital human and intellectual drive for integrity. This document will only further contribute to the already tragic isolation of church leaders from the people of God."
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Homos just dont get it - but at least the new pope does.
:}
Nanc,
It's all part of the deviant culture the liberals have been formenting the last 40 years. We as a society are just bombarded with sexual tolerence for EVERYTHING, while the reasons for us to feel awkward or blush has been ripped away.
It used to be a huge insult for a woman to be called "loose", or a "tart", but now teen girls are openly calling themselves "sluts", showing 90% of their skin at school, and bragging about giving blowjobs out like candy.
What do you expect?
i've heard girls say, "clinton says it's not sex, so it's not!" the saddest thing is that our children are exposed to this behavior on school buses, school bathrooms, bushes, janitor's closets. my son and his buddies have found two tied off condoms on the school grounds and one on the school bus. there are 12 year old girls lapdancing on the back of the bus. heads disappearing into boys' laps. and now, to top it off, teachers are in the mix.
the n.t. book of ephesians 4:17-19 (amp)states:so this i say and solumnly testify in the name of the Lord, that you must no longer live as the heathen do in their perverseness of their minds. their moral understanding is darkened and their reasoning is beclouded. they are alienated from the life of G-d because of the ignorance that is deep-seated in them, due to their hardness of heart. in their spiritual apathy they have become callous and past feeling and reckless and have abandoned themselves a prey to unbridled sensuality, eager and greedy to indulge in every form of impurity.
now, i'm not your typical namby pamby christian, but i believe the guidelines set for us are to make life easier, not more difficult. i did not always feel this way.
your are right, madze, we have lost the ability to blush or be shocked. people say, "kids will be kids..." how little credit we give them. we have lost the expectations children wish to be placed on them.
rightwingmac - you could not be more right in your assumptions regarding starting too young.
i believe it is a father's job to teach his daughters how to be treated by the opposite sex. too many throw-away homes today. i know the line, "if you love me, you'll do this...." our youngest daughter would say, "if you love me you wouldn't ask such a thing!" self-respect required.
I don't even think there was a crime, Taz. Just a hot, slutty teacher boinking some lucky kid. The punishment should only be that her marriage is destroyed and that the kid will hear it big time from his mother.
No lawyers should have been involved in this at all. It's a private family matter, period.
yoo-hoo madze - just a question, please. if this were a 13 or 14 year old baby z and her math teacher, what would madzionist do?
Baby Z is a daughter so you can only imagine how ugly it would be for her math teacher.
However, if Baby Z were a son I'd actually feel sorry for him if he nailed the teacher, because Momma Z would skin him alive.
well, there was a line drawn and i had to step over it. we've discussed what would happen if someone stole the innocence of one of our children, and although we feel it IS a crime, the case would never see the inside of a courthouse! the person would have the experience of a nanc mom and pop trial. no chance of appeals and the sentence would be eternity in hell.
nanc,
if I know you I'm guessing you can summon a temper if something rubs you that far wrong. Let me predict, if I may, that, just like Momma Z, you'd rip your son's head clean off if he ever went and banged his teacher.
Then you'd have horney teacher fired in two seconds flat and have your son taken out of that school faster than you can say BOO.
Am I right?
You think it isn't sexist to call Lafave a slut for having sex with this kid? Please...it is so typically chauvenist of conservatives to always make women answer to a different set of rules...
The teacher RAPED the boy, and it is not any different than if a man raped a high school girl. You obviously don't take rape seriously, because now that she walked without penalty how many other rape victims will refuse to speak out because they feel nothing will happen. Also, why is nobody asking if they had SAFE sex?
And regarding sex at the schools between students - Society has brainwashed you into thinking double standards are OK, or that women who are having casual sex are "sluts" and somehow bad, but that boys are just cool. Well, it is time to realize that women can be sexually active without being judged as "bad", and that it is finally being accepted that sexual experimantation, provided it is SAFE SEX, is healthy for both girls and boys.
i fear funeral arrangements would be needed madze...but otherwise i'm about the easiest person in the world to get along with. i know at school, when our number pops up on the caller id - they're saying, "you take it" "i'm not gonna take it" "let's have the principal take it". i love rolling heads and rolling eyes - so much fun rolling them back!
dana - why have you gone and done this? i can't play right now, but i'm sure someone will be in - take a seat and get ready for your therapy. later, nanc
JB,
I agree with you about 17 yr old women, but your teacher should never have boinked one of his students. The fact is he knew her age...it wasn't like she faked being 19 or 20 just to entrap the guy. He deserved to be fired.
As far as the teacher ho, I still say I think it is criminal for it to be criminal. She is wrong, yes, and so is he, but not criminally. He should be grounded, she fired and divorced, but that's that.
Kuhnkat,
I disagree with your assessment that boys and girls should be treated without gender considerations. To rape a girl is much, much more heinous of an act than what Lafave did...please, it sounds rather feminist of you not to see the difference! I am frankly surprised you don't agree.
As far as Dana is concerned, I don't even need to address that bunk do I?
Dana says,
"You think it isn't sexist to call Lafave a slut for having sex with this kid? Please...it is so typically chauvinist of conservatives to always make women answer to a different set of rules..."
JBargholz says,
"You don't have to call promiscuous girls and women sluts. Pigs, whores, skanks, trollops, tramps, slatterns, etc. are all just as accurate."
Freedomnow says,
Haa haaa haaaaaaaa JBargholz you have quite an extensive vocabulary.
MZ,
Have you checked out this blog?
http://simplyjews.blogspot.com/
FN
Kuhnkat,
My point with women is that the difference between the sexes isn't just societal programming, rather the two are hardwired differently.
Now you and your most unlikely ally, Dana, both seem to be under the impression that the sexes react to sex differently because of society's prevailing sexism. That if we became egalitarian in every sense we will all be able to live by the same rules of behavior.
This is where the liberal/feminist movement does a grave injustice to society. There are inherent differnces in the sexes. Women are best for society when they control the sexuality with their superior ability to maintain a clear judgement. Women as the sex which is the bearer of children has been given the gift from above to know how to control their urges as for them the stakes are naturally higher if mistakes are made.
As men we must respect the woman. Must understand that she is the one who must make the choices for whom they will reproduce with, while men are beautifully programmed to pursue the woman with great vigor in the hope that he will be the one chosen.
To deny that women have this biological orientation does terrible things to society. Women without their traditional role of guardian of the sex become nothing more than semen dumps, while men become more uncivilized without the need to behave like gentlemen to impress the lady.
Our traditons were not developed by accident. To destroy them in the name egalitarianism only leads to the mess we see on degenerate TV every night.
I do agree with you, Kuhnkat, that neither side should be having sex irresponsibly. I only pointed out that men and women are different because not accounting for this is part of what caused this in the first place.
BTW, I find it far more disturbing that nobody is admonishing this woman for committing adultery. To me that was the worst of the offenses that happened, but nobody seems to care much.
ah yes, the seventh commandment "you shall not commit adultery" with G-d that is ANY sexual relations outside the marriage. marriage is between a man and a woman. excellent point madze.
MZ,
Congratulations on 38 comments!
i agree kuhnkat - there is what is called a "grooming" process pedophiles follow to test the child's waters, so to speak. if that child is an easy target, that is the path more travelled. we almost never hear of children from two-parent homes on this path - that is if the parents are happy and are involved in all the affairs of that child.
the grooming process is a sick one. many times the person in control is a preacher, priest, teacher, trusted aunt or uncle or grandfather, scout leaders, gymnastic instructors. in my experience working in the criminal justice system and seeing people come out on parole, about half were close trusted people to the child. the others were obvious in their endeavors - to the trained eye anyway.
as far as dana and her idea that safe sex is healthy for teens go, i believe to the depths of my soul she could NOT be more wrong. how many adults are even ready for what is truly healthy sex and ALL that goes along with that?
last sunday, our pastor told us that our married lives together should get better and better and that unless G-d is at the center of us, we can expect sexual doldrums, lack of affection, etc. i wholeheartedly agree - i'm like paul, "oh that You would accurse me and save my brethren."
i apologize for being too preachy.
j.b. i believe a spouse cheats because there is not enough passion in the relationship, and i'm not talking just sexual passion. it is so sorry that a spouse must show this passion only after their mate has cheated on them...when my husband walks by me and does the grab@ss routine along with a kind word or two and our children tell us to "get a room", i know we are doing something right after nearly 17 years.
it is factual if a child sees loving parents they expect no less in their own relationships and would never fall for a depraved teacher or any other predator type.
i do not claim to know what "normal" is, but i know "abnormal" when i see or hear it. we've tried to instill this quality in our own children and other children who enter our home.
From the modeling photos of "teacher brick house," I would have to say the 14 year old boy in question, got some "well rounded" sex education tutoring. He should be billed!
Also, the major difference between male and female statutory rape, is the role the laws of "hydraulics" plays into the situation!
Hit it boys!
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damn your hide rightminded - they let you go i see! good to see you spreading your music over the www. have you visited freedomnow - quite perhaps the best in laughs on any day.
Yeah nanc, freedomnow is funny! I just returned from there based on your recommendation.
There is a lot of life out there post Moonbat.
I've got much traveling to do on the WWW, and not much time to do it. The nervous hospital will be fully staffed Monday morning, and I do not want to get caught in the Admin Offices again!!!--The last time they caught me using their computers, they made me eat a gingerbread outhouse that was sitting around a gingerbread village display for a month previous.
I must run; I think I'll beam Beamish up, and see how it's going for him.
MZ,
What can I say! I have always admired your forthrightness and no-PC no-BS stance, and as usual, you have maintained them.
I know we menfolk should not have evil thoughts, but you are darned right that the kid is to be only envied and not pitied (might have severe withdrawal symptoms, though, so to speak : ), and the "rapist" charges made about the teacher are ludicrous.
I do respect the high road mentality taken by Nanc et al, but as you said, reality is *ahem* different!
Bulletin! Bulletin! Bulletin!
"This is Rightminded live at Mercy hospital, where "The kid who scored with her" has been rushed into surgery!""
"Doctor, can you tell his adoring fans what is the problem?"
"We are going to have to reset most of the fingers in his right hand, and a few of the bones in his forearm.---A human hand and arm can only take so many high fives.---I actually had to give him a gentle one, just before putting him under.--DAMN IS THAT BROAD HOT!"
"Doctor, what advise did you give him following the operation?"
"I told him not to lose her number, and stay in touch. In a few years he'll be legal, and she'll be 30, and that's when they really get fired up.--MAN IS THAT GIRL SEXY!---Oh yeah, and knock off the high fives!"
rightminded - perhaps in a more perfect world, she could end up your daughter-in-law!
Ah yes nanc, in a more perfect world I would have been blessed with a son, as I was with a daughter. And in this perfect world he would have known the difference between a bimbo you share the sowing of some safe wild oats when single, and a girl you commit to in marriage.
But just as important, in this perfect world, I would have the wisdom and character to realize it was not about my happiness that my son was choosing a particular girl to marry, but his.
kuhnkat said...
"It sounds like both of you have enlisted on the leftie side."
Sir, you wound me to the quick!
Your leap to that conclusion, and the use of that fallacy in logic is beneath you!--FOR SHAME! I SAY AGAIN, FOR SHAME!
I am curious. Do you believe that the punishment for a 25 year old hot tamale, that has sex with a 14 year old boy, should be the same as a 25 year old man, that has sex with a girl, that he knows without a shadow of a doubt is only 14?
I do not, because I am convinced in the rare cases that it does happen when a 25 year old women even wants to have sex with a 14 year old boy, it's the same as a 25 year old man seducing a 14 year old girl!.
rightminded - we know where you usually stand. was this right or wrong? kuhnkat and i believe it is wrong. one of those times i guess we must agree to disagree and move on.
no more columns on sex, madze. it gets the beasts in an uproar! i also notice we pay particular attention to this type of occurrence. hmmmmmm.....
An adult having sex with a child can never be right, nanc. However, based on the circumstances involved, it can range from an act of irresponsibility, to being punishable by throwing the bugger in jail and throwing away the key, or worse.
ONE SIZE IN THIS MATTER DOES NOT FIT ALL, AND A HOLLIER THEN THOU APPROACH WOULD BE TYRANNICAL IF IT INDEED DID!
You are correct and wise to move on, because I PERSONALLY FIND YOUR CONOTATION OF GOD'S DEFINITION OF ADULTRY, HMMMMMMM, I MUST SAY, BEASTLY!
Kuhnkat,
Sorry I gave you the wrong impression - I was just commenting on the ground reality of the utter hypocrisy of going "ooooh" over the presumed loss-of-innocence of the 14 year old boy and "Thou shalt not!!!" over the again presumed rapaciousness of the va-va-voom teacher - I have not seen any pictures of "the kid", but I am willing to bet he is quite big for his age both visibly and (*ahem*) otherwise - because Mme. Va Va Voom chose him over all the others.
You are absolutely right - the West is getting flushed down the toilet with all the pornography and sodomy=gay=saint moral equivalencing activities going on - and is rapidly dragging down other civilized cultures with it. What riles me is that nothing is done to stop this rot but when the moral licentiousness advocated by the lefties (whom I passionately hate, probably far more than you do!) reaches one of its more palatable logical conclusions (palatable because think what it would have been like if the teacher involved was a male), there is such a hue-and-cry. Am I the only one who has seen scores and scores of sluttish teenage girls all over the place who look more mature than 30, forget 18? Not to mention "teenage" boys who look they have kids of their own studying in middle school? You know what would happen if their parents tried to discipline them, right? Yep, prison and loss of custodial rights. So relax and enjoy the show, I say.
Singapore is a country with a tough love policy - no pornography allowed - drug dealers given death by hanging - and it is quite literally the safest place in the world to live and work (too hot and humid for me though : ). We need something like that - pornography loosens morals and makes men lose whatever little respect they had for women in the first place.
Of course, given the huge horde of whining back-stabbing lefties destroying all that is decent, everywhere, this is not gonna happen!
P.S. I can't *stand* MTV and similar crap!!!
just curious - how do you all feel about former rock star, gary glitter, having sex with young vietnamese girls?
kuhnkat - this could be one of those runaway threads that madze is not even paying attention to. but of course, we are beating it to death.
personally, i do not believe most people under thirty are ready for what sex brings to a relationship (marriage). i realize it is never bad for a man, as my husband likes to say. well, as most men will say!!!
kuhnkat - that must be what is meant by not being unevenly yoked with unbelievers. i know in my relationship with my husband it took longer to get on the same page than it would have had we met under different circumstances. i'm glad to see that you have not settled for less than you deserve. so many do and as it says in the good book, a bad wife is like a leaky roof!
you seem so uplifting in such a downtrodden city. have you ever thought of leaving? i imagine if you do, a darkness will cover the entire "gay" area - lol!!!
if you knew my husband, you would see i am indeed the fortunate one. you keep your chin up and i will talk to the Boss about you.
kuhnkat said...
"Now Lefave was a first timer, and alledgedly only had relations with this boy, so I will allow that a life term would probably be extreme.******A couple years at least is definitely indicated for statutory rape."******
A 16 and a half year old boy or girl, has sex with their 15 and a half year old boyfriend or girlfriend, and this could get them two years in the kuhnkat-ville poky!--BEASTLY I SCREAM, AND UN-CHRIST LIKE TO BOOT IN MY BOOK!
A 21 year old man, picks up a 17 year old girl in a bar. The girl who looks well over 18 does not bring up her age and the beastly male, fails to run a illegal credit check on her, a la senator Chuck Schumer of New York does on people he needs information on.
This lite-up, "unGodly duo" willingly does the humpty-dance!---AND YOU BELIEVE THIS LAPS IN JUDGEMENT OPENS UP THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE MAN COULD GET TWO YEARS.--Your God is one I am totally unfamiliar with, and choose not to get to know!!!!!!
rightminded - you'll never know Him until you know Him. then and only then can you safely pass judgment on kuhnkat. he is a principled man and someone to aspire to. we enjoy your escapades, can you not enjoy ours? harmless as they are?
you never answered my question regarding aging former rocker gary glitter making it with 12 year old vietnamese girls. right or wrong? just because christians do not see grey areas does not mean there are any. am i taking the high road or the only road?
i still appreciate you and your sense of humor.
oh dear, why did i have to go and get the 69th post? LOL!!! thatz okay - i'm an extremely married woman!
Now, now nanc, words have meaning and two years imprisonment for statuary rape, no questions asked, is not something I would aspire to, and is far from the Christianity I aspire to!
I do not know the facts in the Mr. Glitter case, so how can I pass judgement.
I'll tell you one thing, I've been to Vietnam, and it is good to see that they are taking a serious interest in their children's welfare, at last. You have no idea how many times I heard, "Hey GI, my sister give you B!@#J*( long time!"
"guess no one ever taught you to have respect for yourself and others. It saddens me because it ISN'T taught much anymore and is GREAT lack."
Au contra ire, and that is why I would never even entertain the thought of sending someone to prison for two years without being extremely circumspect!
TELL ME, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING ALL THIS INFORMATION CONCERNING THE ANIMUS OF TEACHER VA-VA-VA-VOOM? You seem to be able to see into her very heart, and soul, and know exactly what happened the day she rocked the teeny-boppers world!
YOU PICKED UP A 15 YEAR OLD GIRL ON YOUR BIKE WHEN YOU WERE 30, AND DANGEROUSLY DROVE AROUND TOWN WITH HER ON IT?--Good Lord man that is child endangerment!!!!--How much time in the hoosegow do you score for that idiocy?
Kuhnkat you need a date!
Your mind is running amok in every which away!
Focus, you are rattled!!!!
Well rightwingmac?
First you say,
"this quote from your darling innocents 14 year old sex toy:"
then you say,
"Bye the bye, the cousin driving actually reported this not the boy himself."
Which is it? And the link you provided made about as much sense!
You also, tell me,
""The boy told investigators he and the teacher had sex in a classroom, her house and once in a vehicle while his 15-year-old cousin drove. He said Lafave told him her marriage was in trouble and that she was aroused by the fact that having sex with him was not allowed.""
This is supposed to convince me, teacher toothsome should serve two years in prison?--Are you mad?
Obviously this boy was not traumatized to allow it to happen three times on three different occasions!
YOU SIR, WOULD NOT MAKE A GOOD PARENT, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW GROWN UP SOME 14 YEAR OLDS CAN BE!
I would love to know who initiated these actions, instead of just stopping them, walking away, and warning the teacher not to do it again or there would be charges made.
3 times, and you think he didn't love it, and she should go to prison!!!!--You're demented, cruel
and naive!
someone please tell me how grown up 14 year olds can be in this day and age. having only been one, and reared two - i'd like to know! mine could not even remember to wipe the sleep boogers out of their eyes before school. one forgot to feed the rabbits for four days - oops! they put their socks on the wrong feet - please tell me!!! caught one (the eldest) having a shower with her boyfriend - i fear they were not just scrubbing each others' backs!
fourteen year olds are not your usual mature suspects in life matters. of course, at fourteen i was in charge of the entire house and all younger siblings, until i got pregnant at 16 and left home. how mature is that? i made it, put myself through two years of college, had good jobs and have a great life now. had i been born a generation later life would be different. i have yet to meet a sincerely responsible 14 year old.
some say do not put a 14 year old in charge of anything other than a dead hamster, because that's about all they can handle.
sorry rm, but in this day and age, 14 year olds are not what i was, or perhaps you were at that age.
my goodness kuhnkat - i do believe there is a very fine woman out there for you - of course she may not be in california. the only good one left and moved to arkansas with her family - no offense mrs. tazzmax as i consider you still arkansans who have not yet come back to your senses! i wish i had a spare sister for you, but they're taken too! and frankly, i'm not that particularly fond of many women - most are phony and catty to boot. but i'll bolo 4 u. good evening oh passionate one!
nanc says,
"sorry rm, but in this day and age, 14 year olds are not what i was, or perhaps you were at that age."
You do not have to be sorry, I agree with you!
However, this boy went back for sex not twice, but three times, and one of the times he did the nasty with his cousin in attendance to witness the event.--HE WAS FAR FROM TRAUMITIZED AND IN MY BOOK HE BEARS A DEGREE OF CALPABILITY IRREGARDLESS OF HIS AGE!--There are plenty of 14 year old boys who would have known this was wrong, and not partook in the "getting to know you better teach" trifecta!
Teacher "one hell of a jazzy weekend for an of age, lucky single guy," lost her profession, is marked for life on a sexual criminal data base, and is house confined for the most part, wearing a GPS ankle devise that I'll bet she looks hot in, for two years.--THE JUDGE IN MY OPINION DID GOOD TO DISCOURGE THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR FROM An ADULT WOMEN, WITHOUT POSSIBLY DESTROYING THE WOMEN. If she does this again to an under age boy, no matter how much he enjoys reveling in the ya-ha, "she does time."
Wow has this thread taken off. So, tell me, am I wrong to fantasize that I'm that 14 yr old kid?
-MZ
kuhnkat, you are not there yet, but you are close to talking in tongues.
I do not want you to hurt yourself, so I am going to leave you be!--Well, that plus your comments are getting to long, and I hate long comments, even when I lose it and write one every now and again.
Tip: When you date a women, let her do most of the talking. For the most part they do not like men that out talk them--THAT'S THEIR JOB!
i only have trouble with one kuhnkat, but it makes some christians angry so i will not say which one.
there. i've helped make this one of the longest threads yet in madzionistory. if you need a word made up, nanccompoundictionary is the one to call.
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