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Liberal Jews defend Hamas

I see my liberal, self-loathing Jewish brethren are at it again.

According to a report from Worldnet Daily, leftwing American Jews are opposing legislation by the US congress to cut off financing for Hamas unless they recognize Israel. It seems they want to give the terrorists the funding as a "good will gesture" that acts like the "carrot" from America to encourage the moslem vermin to be nicer.

Said M.J. Rosenberg, director of policy for the Israel Policy Forum, a prominent leftist think tank, "We oppose the legislation. The U.S. should be extending carrots to Hamas, and not just slapping them with sticks. We should be trying to encourage Hamas to recognize Israel, not shutting them out completely."

Another repugnant organization of liberal Jews, Americans for Peace Now, had this to say:

"This new call for the PA to recognize the existence of Israel is not agreeable. It's something the U.S. has never applied before in negotiations with the Palestinians or with regard to Jordanian treaties. The clause is clearly drafted with Hamas in mind. It makes no sense. What if Fatah [which recognizes Israel] comes back to power?"

Peace Now, both in Israel and America, is one of the leading anti-Zionist groups of Jews who are naturally going to oppose any legislation forcing anybody to recognize Israel since they themselves don't necessarily recognize Israel's right to exist. They, and other Jew-hating Jewish groups like them, still feel the Jews were aggressors from the beginning who drove out the indigenous moslems, forcing them into refugee camps and causing the terrorist violence with policies of apartheid.

It is a fact that the worst enemy of the Jews is the the self-loathing Jews who renounce their religion and heritage. They become the most dangerous anti-Semites, and, because of their Jewish background, give legitimacy to genocidal islamic causes by acting as their useful idiots.

-MZ

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Jan, be careful. MZ was born a Reformed Jew and his family remains so to this day. The overwhelming majority of self-loathing Jews do come from the liberal movements like Reformed, but we do see many like me who return to Torah (Baal T'Chuvahs) from even the most non-observant of childhoods.

The key is to reject the self-loathing liberalism, not to make blanket statements against Reformed Jews not being counted as Jews.

That said, the only question that is fair game is the Jewish maternal lineage issue, as Reformed will consider children born to non-Jewish mothers as Jewish, which is not the case for Conservative and Orthodox. This is a potentially huge problem that is making the divide between Reformed and Orthodoxy very serious. Many in Orthodoxy are grumbling that the Reformed must change their rules back to maternal lineage or risk being considered a non-Jewish denomination.

That aside, all unreligious Jews are not self-loathing leftists as Baruch Merzel himself pointed out. All of us can change our paths in life, even though the secular Jews may by and large be behaving in a very un-Jewish manner who knows which among them could be the next MZ?

-MZ

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well, to settle this, i've heard there is a dna test one can take to see if they have true jewish lineage - there is a particular gene ALL jews carry. which is more than i can say for us mutts!

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Nanc, Jews don't all carry DNA similarities. You are confusing the findings about the Jews from a TV special about the lineage of the Kohanim, who have had a similar trait in over 80% of those tested, which is statistically substantial.

Kohanim are the blood decendents of Aaron. Those who were from Aaron's loins were the priests who to this day share the same familial genetics you spoke of.

That said, all Jews except the Kohanim are of mixed multitudes of Jewish tribal genes and over 3 millenia of converts. Converts (orthodox ones) are NOT considered to be Jews of lesser status, and regularly have been welcomed into the Jewish nation since the time of the exile in Egypt.

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Jan, I didn't mean to imply that you are flat wrong, far from it! I am as hard on the self-loathers as they come, but I just wanted you to know that not all reform are a terminal case.

I agree with your point about defending ourselves against the leftists who seek to destroy us. I think my strong stance on Bush giving away our nation's major sea ports to the moslems was proof that I will lay down the hammer on anyone who gets infected by the concessionist bug.

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Jan V, A Jew is Jew whether or not they are following the Torah. The vast majority of those who are non-Frum have the status of Tinok Shenishbah(check out Rambam Mishne Torah Hilchos Acoom, and Hilchos Teshuva for a exact definition and relevant Halachot)so while their Averos are bad they aren't the same as if a person who was raised Frum performs Averos. It is also our duty as Frum Jews to MiKarev those who aren't Frum at this point. To some degree the problems we are facing are our fault since the Frum community, with the exception of Chabad, hasn't done enough to MiKarev non-Frum Jews.

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You are correct, Kahaneloyalist, about Chabad being the only ones doing a good job of bringing secular Jews back to Torah. I myself baal chuvahed in large part from Chabad's efforts, and think all religious Jews need to learn lessons about real outreach from them.

That said, the maternal lineage problem in the Reform movement is a real issue, and it needs to be fixed before it's too late.

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